Dominant + Submissive Relationships / Domination + Submission Life


This is a new site we built to discuss the fast growing underground dominant submissive movement that is taking private bedrooms all over the world like wildfire.

My name is Master Nak and I find myself unexpectedly immersed in this world due to my love for a submissive sub slut Slave Tay. In searching for information on how to be a Slave owner and a dom Master I have found that the information available is all over the map. Much of this dates back to the days of Leather in the late 70s and early 80s, and that time of the 20th century is a pretty big turn off for me, as I am not gay, nor do I have a leather fixation.

The Dom Sub world in which I find myself is more elegant, the rules deeper and more subtle, the power exchange more intertwined which the real world. The pain that my Slave requires still I find a bit shocking, and my ability to control my strength so that I inflict pain without leaving bruises and marks is something I am still learning, been a new Dom and still learning.

However, there is something exquisite about being with a sexual partner that is totally submissive, and her deep needs for her Master to take control still take my breath away.

This site is fully interactive, and we are looking for people to comment, contact and participate.

Kisses and Lashings,

Master Nak


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  1. I found your comment very interesting. I have a friend who is encouraging me to be dom to her sub. There is a solid love between us, but we will never be married to each other. I am older by 20 years and very much want to please this woman. The dom/sub culture is not something that i have ever been involved with. There is no question that i want to please her by taking a dom role with her…any suggestions on where to start to learn? She isn’t into much pain…and she really wants this to work. She loves the way i can get her off with my fingers…but wants to feel “taken”. Any comments would be appreciated. Bill

  2. First off you must thank the Universe for this gift you have found with this woman.

    Okay now for the formal greeting, Bill~

    Most people fall into this and then it takes on a life of its own. There is so much advice out there, it can get pretty confusing where you find your comfort level. There are books, websites and events where they try and convince their way is best for you. My Dom who was just as clueless as you in the beginning started by following my lead (hah quite funny me taking the lead as a sub). I have a strong sexual desire to be dominated and we, subs, are all created differently . My Dom started visiting websites (such as this), buying books. He would take mental notes on how I would react to his attempts to control me with a very loving hand. We are still together after five months and he has found another great book to guide us through our next stage of our Dom/Sub relationship.

    It is great that you know she does not like the pain part, but you need to find out how she wants to be controlled by you. That is the biggest turn on for us, subs. How she reacts to your control over her ( I am assuming that is what she is craving in a Dom) will determine the next step. A blind fold, hand cuffs, a special collar, or ordering her to do something very sexy to herself during the day, such as taking a picture of her pussy and sending it to you. Think outside of the box and you shall find your path.

    Keep me posted. I am always here to give you more hints and luscious advise on how to keep you sub very happy!

    Slave Tay

  3. I know many people who have disagreed with a slave life for younger people. Do you think it is immoral for a child of 12 to start behaving in a Dom and Sub life and/or relationship?


  4. Yes, absolutely.

    12 year old children are unable to give consent. That is why we have laws protecting them.

  5. I’m glad to find another d/s website. Oddly enough I learned about the lifestyle from a Harry Potter realised that that was what I’ve been looking for forever. A couple years ago after reading up on it, I started slowly introducing different things into my relationship (I’m the sub)-it’s a strictly sexual thing for me. We haven’t started with things that involve pain-although it’s something I eventually want to try, but so far so good. Any advice in finding local functions? It seems like the places I’ve looked don’t really list anything like that, and I’d like to see if any clubs appeal to us.

  6. Hi – what area generally are you looking in? The name of BSDM social gatherings, a good way to meet people are called ‘Munches’ or ‘Meet for a Munch’ Let me know, and I can see what looks oK to me in your area,
    Thanks for posting !


  7. My wife/slave and I have this very same issue, in 7 months I have read thousands of pages of info on D/s, M/s, O/p. and now I am kind of confused as to where to start applying all I have learned. Our goal is TPE but with two little ones that can not truly happen for a few years, she knows she is a slave but also can’t get there just yet again because of the kids. Anyway I was just going to ask for some advice or maybe ideas on protocols, rituals, and such. Feel free to contact me through this site using the name SirGhost via the contact form. Also looking for a sub/slave friend for my wife to email back and forth with. Nothing but someone with like heart and like mind. Thank you for your time.


    (edited by the admin for privacy)

  8. Hi SirGhost, and welcome to the site.

    I would say you could start small. 🙂 No need for the full event, all the time. While I do love getting on the full kit with my Sub, I have also found smaller events can be just as bonding and validating as tying her up with ropes and other assorted restraints.

    For instance, I have found a pair of soft wrist restraints with her hands behind her back, followed by a light spanking can do wonders to normal love making, as the intent and follow through is the core of what she is looking for as a sub. It is often the anticipation of something she does not expect that she responds to, so in that regard, just having her hands tied behind her back with the addition of a simple blindfold can get her excited and aroused.

    Remember, as the Dom in the situation, you are the one who has been granted control, and the unexpected can do wonders, for as you Sub, a big part of the equation is for you to take the control she has granted you to delight and surprise her.

    Master Nak

  9. I hardly leave remarks, however i did a few searching and wound up here Maste Nak and my Submissive Slave Tay | Dom Sub. And I actually do have a couple of questions for you if it’s allright. Could it be simply me or does it look like a few of the comments look like coming from brain dead individuals? 😛 And, if you are writing on additional online social sites, I’d like to keep up with everything fresh you have to post. Could you list of every one of all your shared pages like your linkedin profile, Facebook page or twitter feed?

  10. Thanks for the personal note. These are strange times, to be sure, and the difference between ‘brain dead’ and just lacking the ability to ‘think critically’ is a fine one indeed.

    I have done some writing on other sites about my experiences in the Dom-Sub world, but have come under fire due to the nature of extremes and the way they are handled. You have several different camps out there, each with highly codified behaviors and rituals, that have a tendency to be quite narrow minded in order to justify their particular lifestyle choices. Engaging in conversations with these groups can get to be a real drag unless you are the type of personality who is compelled to find and follow a guru, which I most decidedly reject. Juts be using the word Master and Slave can raised the ire of the thin skinned, and I find the resulting conversations tedious to the point of banging my head against the wall.

    There is a whole new cast of characters out there who only participate in ‘the lifestyle’ through chat and online chat interfaces, and while I certainly am not in any position to judge, these characters (avatars, icons, etc) end up being very brittle, unrealistic and harsh, as they have no real world experience, and scenes are played out entirely in their own minds. Anyone who is ‘living the life’, or even having a real world sexual relationship that drifts into dom-sub can see these people coming from a mile off. SL (Second Life) has bred an entire culture made up of these imaginary ‘players’, and while I know that SL has many who engage in BDSM both on + off line, it has created a new virtual class who feel quite strongly about the legitimacy of virtual sexual relationships.

    That is one of the reasons I created this site, actually, to have a chance to talk about the issues and to listen to the feedback of people who have found themselves thrust into ‘the lifestyle’ due to meeting someone who has started them down the path in the real world, with all the wonderful, joyful and sometimes annoying real life factors that inevitably intrude into the fantasy life that can happen when things go right.

    ~ Nak

  11. Excellent website!!

    In response to Bill Lyons…and anyone who is interested in making someone feel “taken” without too much (if any) pain is through sensory deprivation. I trust we all have our favorite cuffs, and a blindfold on standby…Invest in some decent ear-buds and download some white noise to loop after about 5 minutes the brain will kick into overdrive and try to alert the other senses. taste and smell is heightened, and of course the nerves are buzzing under their skin. I personally enjoyed having to taste different things, or having textured fabric run on my skin. I am sure you can go from there. But this builds up trust and enforces reliance in a sub. I hope it helps. Enjoy!

  12. I just added this web site to my favorites. I enjoy studying your posts.

  13. Hello Master Nak and Slave Tay. I love your website. I’ve recently been introduced to this lifestyle by my fiance. I have to admit it’s a lot to take in. I love my Mr. very much and want to see his desires fulfilled. Most of the places I look for information are overwhelming and it’s nice to finally find some info wrapped in compassion.

  14. my fiance and i have talked about me being his sub, he has never been in this type of relationship and neither have i, but i have this absolute strong want, need and desire to be a sub and be controled sexually by my dom. how do i go about getting him more involved in this. we have discussed things such and buying various things, like whips, chains, restraints, and other things, but this dont seem to be going well. we have tried tieing my hands behind by back and getting a ounishment from the belt, but it just leads to more punishments because silly me likes to escape 🙂 but i think there may be some type of fear in him thinking he may hurt me, as he was abused badly as a child. any help and advise would be great !

  15. Hey Aly, I would go for it and buy some nice BDSM accessories, get them home and try them out. If you are an ‘escape artist’ you need to be restrained properly and safely. There are some very nice products out there that are both discrete, useful and not expensive. The issues with just using the belt is that, while useful in a pinch, it can lead to levels of pain that may or may not be appropriate for people starting out in ‘The Life’.

    The deeper, and ultimately more important and pressing issue, that will need to be resolved over time is your partners abusive childhood. I am not qualified to address this, and it should be something that is best left to a professional. That would be a longer term commitment on his part, and not something you can decide for him. He is going to have to find his path to resolving that, and no one can decide this. It is a choice he must make for himself, when, if ever, he is ready. There is a darker side to this process that you should be aware of, and that this process has the potential to backfire when his past starts to reveal itself.

    I am not suggesting that is is a task that should be undertaken in order for you and he to explore this world of Dom Sub (BDSM). You should understand that you are going to have to be the driver of this initiative in order for you to get what you want. This means that as the Sub you will have to research ‘This Life’ (as you are doing here in this site) and be the one educating your new Dom. What this entails is spending some time with your lover and gently tell him about your deep needs and desires, and that he is you lover, and that you understand his hesitancy, and you empathize with the issues that are coming up through sessions and play. Invite him to share his concerns, be loving, gentle and caring. Tell him that he is your man, and that as your partner, you want him to be your Dom. Through these types of loving and intimate conversations perhaps you can find a bridge or common ground that will help open him up to the prospect of having a deeper, more loving relationship, as well as fulfilling your sexual needs in a way that is emotionally satisfying to both of you.

    In a perfect world, having your lover transformed into the Dominant of your wildest dreams might be ideal, but on the flip site of the coin, it might be too much, too fast for you.

    It is an open secret that the male ego is a fragile thing, especially when he has given his heart over. Being berated for not being Dom or Macho enough can be a dick withering experience for the male ego, and activate old wounds that have the potential to destroy sexual confidence and well as relationships. Be careful how fast and far you push your lover into this world, it sounds like you are ready and raring to go, but due to the issues you outline relative to his past upbringing he might be terrified of the part of himself he has hidden away for so many years. His fears might be imagined, or very real. Tread carefully and take heart that if he has been willing to participate up to this point he is willing to try.

    Taking to tact of being gently, kind and understanding at that start is a safe plan. Off the top of my head, the concept of seduction comes to mind, candles, soft music, a nice bottle of chilled champagne with a surprise seduction might be in order where you display your submissive skills could be an excellent icebreaker. Good luck, and let me know how things unfold. ~ MasterNak

  16. i have always loved being taken control of in bed. it is a major turn on for me but my boyfriend doesnt seem to want to try this kind of lifestyle…what are some ways/ things i should try to ease him into it. i want to be the submissive but he’s not so inclined…

  17. Hey Lexy, I think you are going to have to take the bull by the horns with this one and actually have a conversation with your boyfriend about this. If he ain’t down with ‘cutting the mustard’ and taking you the way you desire to be taken, it is time to have a heart to heart and figure out which end is up ~ lol ~ so to speak.

    Men can be complex critters, especially when it come to sex. Much can be hidden , and not revealed until they hit the sexual wall with their sexual partners. Sounds like that wall is coming up fast for you, so the time is now. NOW! I understand that engaging in conversations like this can be difficult, but if this is the way you feel, then the time has arrived.

    Life is short, babe, if you man ain’t delivering, time to have a talk about what is important to you, and if he can’t rise to the occasion, time to get a new man.

    Herein lies the irony of establishing a dom-sub relationship. It sounds like you are dominant in bed, but want to explore your submissive side. This does not mean getting out the restraints, handcuffs, whips and chains from the get go. But it does mean that as an ice breaker you are going to have to at least reverse your current sexual roles. It sounds like you desire to be ‘taken’, in the fullest sense of the word, my a strong. loving dominant man who is going to take control of the situation and fuck you within an inch of your life, leave you gasping for breath, then fuck you some more, harder, deeper, faster longer.

    This might not be what he bargained for, or is even capable of. At this point you need to weigh your options and make some hard choices, and take some risks in order to find out what is going on in the heart and mind of your mate.

    It could open up a door to a wonderful new chapter in your relationship, his ego might feel threatened, you might find yourself arguing about sex, hard to tell. But at least you can make your needs known and open up the channel to start the conversation.

    My first sub opened up this door by letting her needs known to me, and since then I have not looked back. If she hadn’t, I would not have know I had it in me, as this need to be dominant had lain dormant my whole life.

    ~ MN

  18. I have a new girlfriend that wants me to be her dom. I like the idea, but don’t really know what I’m supposed to do.

  19. i have met a new man who wants to teach me to be his sub partner…i am very strong in the outside world…what is the best way to release my power and let him teach me? i so want to learn and please him…thank you for having such an open and amazing website…i will be studying it for as long as it takes.

  20. my parents ruled my life and I had a bf who was very dom I have liked being controlled but my bf moved I would like being controlled again. I find it hard to be sub when the guy is not even a dom but like goes on and I am still new to this and I would like to know more

  21. Hi my husband and I are just starting out,we are reading lots of stuff over the Internet but my husband is finding it hard to find the role he needs to play,is there any advice u can give please as he loves the thought of all of this it’s just putting it in to practise
    Please help thank u in advance xxlouxx

  22. Hi Nighttime Kiss,

    I guess the question I have is: What type of role does he or you envision?

    Who is going to be Sub and who is going to be Dom?

    It does not have to be one or the either, btw. There is a role called ‘switch’, a person who switches back and form between Dom and Sub. Usually a ‘switch’ has some sort of preference, and what I have found is people who are comfortable in the switch role tend to lean more to the Dom side.

    You and your husband might try this, alternating between Dom and Sub for a while. It can be fun and revealing, and through the process learn about each other and your individual sexual needs. I guarantee The results will surprise you!

    Let me take a moment here and share a delicious irony that I have observed when couples go into exploratory mode, trying out the 3 overall different roles (Dom, Sub, Switch)

    1) To take the plunge and embark on this exploration, it opens up a window of communication between partners that often times have never existing in the relationship.
    2) Through this process and resulting new communication (often this can be through words (verbal) or actions (sexual, physical non verbal) takes a previously, bland, vanilla sex life and sparks a new, sudden fire and passion, look out!
    3) Sometimes this process can reveal painful, hidden past sexual abuse, so please use sensitivity and be prepared for the unexpected. Make sure you agree on a ‘Timeout’ or ‘Safe’ word before a ‘session’, as these type of indicators might be subtle and not obvious. Shame is often a byproduct of childhood sexual abuse or extreme early family dysfunction.
    4) I have known more that a few Sub females which have found that their partners preferred to be the Sub, leaving them to be the Dom. Things can get tricky at that point, but switching between partners and sessions certainly keeps things interesting.

    Keep me posted on your progress!

    ~ Master Nak

  23. Thank you Master Nak for ur reply I am defernatly the sub I want to please and hand over all controll to him 🙂 we have been reading a lot like I said before but he doesn’t seam to understand a lot of it don’t get me wrong he loves to spank me,but I want it harder and he’s scared of hurting does he get over this we’ve discussed safe words and I have told him ill tell him if its to much,I want to be degraded as well and he has no idea how to do this,I have so many fantises that he won’t even entertain have u any advice for me there please x

  24. I’m a new sub and feel as if I struggle controlling my natural response to run when being punished. it’s not that I don’t want to submit its that I feel as if I’m not in control of myself yet. I told my Dom this but he as well is new to this. do you have any advice as to how we can train myself better.

  25. Ok, here is my question. My wife and I want to start exploring a dom/sub relationship. Most of what I see on here is all dricted towards the bedroom. I don’t have alot of questions in that area, as I think that will come easy for us. But she wants me to be a dom in every day life too. We have six kids mind you, so things have to be a little discrete. We have started with ideas such as me choosing what she wears each day, and how her hair and makeup is done. Looking for more ideas to bring the dom/sub into everyday life and decisions. Any help would be great. This is my first time in a dom role, and I want to please her. I also want her to please me!

  26. I was wondering if you knew and clubs or places that exist in the Indianapolis, Indiana area.
    I very interstes in taking this new life style up. So please help me out. I am look to be a sub.

  27. Go to FetLife, create a free account so you can use the site, and then, from within the site, you can search for what they call ‘munches’, which are gatherings of people in the Dom Sub in local and regional areas. It will also give you a chance to meet other doms and subs online. It is as trusted a source as any on the online world, I recommend. I have no affiliation with Fetlife, by the way, but it is a community that I am a member of:

    Thanks for posting!

  28. I am a new sub and desperately want to give control over to my husband of 18 years. I’ve known since childhood that I desired this, but because of my “type A” personality, have never allowed it. After doing some research and talking with my husband, we decided give it a go. Yes, epic fail. Him not wanting to take control, me “topping from the bottom”, etc., etc. We tried spanking, he just couldn’t do it. I knew this was what I needed. Spanking, hair pulling, nipple clamps, bondage and to give up and lay down all that I am at his feet. Unfortunately, he doesn’t feel the same. At one point, during sex, I begged him to spank me with a belt. I told him he wouldn’t harm me, that I would safe word out if need be. He did hit, hard… I didn’t want to safe word out. It felt too good. He looked at my bottom, and just stopped, lost his erection, and now he won’t touch me. He said he just didn’t understand it.

    How do I , who knows beyond doubt they are submissive, reconcile this? Or, help my husband who I truly love? I feel ashamed and humiliated.

    Thank you

  29. Hi Veronica,

    Transitioning an existing long term relationship, (marriage, LTR, etc), where each person has had a defined role (spoken or assumed over time) is tricky business. And I am not even talking about the sexual component, which adds a much deeper, more unpredictable element.

    Step back for a second and take a deep breath. There are many layers to this situation as you have outlined in your post. Let’s take a moment here and I will help you with some perspective. While I do this, as as you read what I write in reply, I would like you to find a way to acknowledge the fact that it is:

    A.) Very complex
    B.) Complicated
    C.) Without blame

    As you breath deeply, acknowledge the intense ‘negative self talk’ going on in your mind (or whispering) that is activating your ‘shame’ and ‘humiliation’ and clearly understand that you have nothing to be ashamed of, and that this reaction is coming from somewhere deep in your past.

    You took the plunge (YAY!), made your needs and desires clear to your partner (double YAY!), actually were able to get him to try the role of DOM of for size (triple YAY!)

    In my mind, as a DOM, you are 3 for 3! Go Team!!!!

    This is extremely tough stuff to accomplish. You have nothing to be ashamed of, and I officially aware your 3 (three) GOLD STARS!!! Your reward, if you where here in my little session room would be some elegant restraints, followed by a sweet (and hard) spanking!

    It might very well be that your partner (husband in this case) is not ready for the speed of this transition, or does not have the capacity to be your DOM, and/or associates spanking, beating, lashing, bondage, restraining with things that are altogether unacceptable (abusive, dangerous, negative, etc), or all of the above, in different measures.

    Rather than take this situation on all your own, and feel ashamed and humiliated, I suggest that you look at it as an opportunity to be able to do further research on several different levels.

    First: Invite your partner (husband) to have a drink together, make it a date, in your home or at a very quiet, romantic restaurant or lounge (club). Talk to him about his experience, ask him how he felt about it, what his internal reaction was, what kind of things it brought up for him. You are trying to discern from his answers how the experience impacted him. Share with him the feelings you had at the time, the pleasure you felt, how it freed you, even for a moment from the control (issues) you have on a daily basis, the feelings of release that you have needed for so long, that have remained hidden from yourself and the world.

    I know I am putting words in your mouth here, but I also can identify with many of the elements of the situation that you have described in your post to me, as when I started out as a DOM, the reactions he had were very much like my own. If you have read any of the things I have written on this site about my own path to becoming the DOM I am today, you will understand this.

    My first SUB took me aside after our first couple of sessions and talked to me like I am advising you, and it made all the differnce in the world. I was very confused, and while my erection did not falter, my mind was screaming at me: “WTF! this is all wrong! How can this be a turn on for this woman, none of it makes sense!’

    Over time, and through her telling me the things I am suggesting you share with him, it began to make sense. I did my own research, after the initial shock, I went out to various chat rooms and sites across the web, as well as meet with others in the RL world, and asked pointed questions, got many different answers, and started to form my own opinions. All this helped me become more aware of the potent internal dynamic of my SUB at the time.

    Now your partner won’t touch you. Hmm, that is unfortunate, but perhaps it is only a temporary thing. He might need to do his own research. like I did. He most certainly needs to hear your insight, as well as being given an opportunity to share with you his own intimate, internal reaction. Give him the chance, make the neutral space available, without judgement or repercussion. You might be pleasantly surprised. Whatever you end up doing, do not berate him, make fun of him, or judge him. He might not be hard-wired for this life. It is not necessary to throw the baby out with the bathwater. You do not have to make this a game changer. It is possible to have a DOM in your life where sex in the end is always a focus. In fact, many DOM/SUB relationships do not have sex (fucking) as part of the equation. It is not a requirement.

    The one thing that is MOST important that you take away from my kind and long winded response is this: Do not feel ashamed! You did the right thing, you made your needs known. It is an excellent beginning. When you first met this man, it was on very different terms, and your needs at the time were very different. Now, 18 years later, your needs have changed. If that means re-defining and/or re-negotiating your current relationship, so be it. You have shown you have the courage to do this. Own it! Keep taking risks! Hopefully, your partner with discover through this process his ‘inner DOM’. If not, find someone out there who can satisfy your needs.

    I am not going to tell you that this is going to be an easy process, or a comfortable one. But you have started down this road, and are finding yourself as you go. Stick with it, the rewards are beyond your wildest dreams! Life is simply too short!

    Let me know how it goes, you are on the right track!

    Master Nak

  30. Master Nak,

    Thank you for your most insightful response. I very much enjoyed the cheerleading and gold stars (yea!). I understand your points and have spent some time reflecting on them. I sat down with my husband in a neutral environment where we could talk and asked for his thought about what I was asking from him? I explained what my need was, where I thought it came from and how happy it would make me if he could complete that aspect of my life. I used all the right words, didn’t accuse, kept to “I” statements, but in the end, he told me he just can’t be that man. He has no desire for it. He went so far as to say I might need therapy (I’d laugh, buts not funny).

    Everyday that I have this unfulfilled, my need for pain and submission grows. Just don’t know what to do about it. The self doubt is easing. I try to remind myself there’s nothing wrong with me. I’ve started writing in a journal when the feelings become overwhelming. It seems to help.

    May look at a local group for mentoring, etc. or just to talk to others.

    Thank you again Master Nak, your thoughtful response is appreciated.


  31. Hi.
    I’m 19, female and I’m looking into becoming a sub, I literally don’t know where to start though. I’m currently not looking for a long term Dom relationship, I don’t want my life to constantly be controlled, at least just not yet and I’m wondering if that makes me unfit for being a Sub.

    Is it typical of a sub to want only perhaps a day of being dominated, pet and master play is my ideal really, but to be free for the rest of the time?
    I’m not saying that I’d never want more but I’m very new to it and I’ve always had a strong independent personality, I just crave being completely in someone’s control once in a while.

    Thank you for reading.

  32. I just happened to find your site and am happy to have a place to explore and be myself. I am in a Dom/sub relationship, and although we can’t live together for several reasons (work/parent caretaking) I am his sub full time, obeying his rules, and telling him when and if I have disobeyed anything. It is nice to have someplace where others know how I feel and what a Dom/sub relationship is all about.

  33. I just stumbled on your site. I have been doing alot of surfing. I have always wanted to be taken and overpowered in the bedroom. Recently my husband and I have tried some bondage and have bought some toys. The thing is where does one go from here. Sometimes it just feels like play acting..something is so missing. Where do we go from here?

  34. Hi Barbara,

    Interesting question, and I have some insight into this that will help!

    I am currently traveling, your comment popped up on my mobile radar, and I will address this question over the next 24hours.


  35. Hey I have a question.. well a few actually. A friend of mine is married and a manager at a store.he tends to sleep around and being a manager, he is naturally dom. I have been a slave and a sub for years, and I think what he is missing is this lifestyle. I explained it to him and he loves the idea but I want to teach him how to be a good Dom..not just be a boss lol and that seems to be the hardest thing to find online. Being a sub it is almost impossible for me to teach him and be his sub.. but we tend to end up doing things that way, ever since I’ve mentioned the lifestyle. Are there places where you can take a class or have an instructor or something along those lines to show him? Munch is nice for meeting people but I feel it’s not hands on enough.. and parties I feel would be overwhelming for him. Suggestions? I’m in the nh seacoast area. Thanks!

  36. Master Nak,

    I am in the same situation as Paul but there are no respones to his post. Do you have any advice for him? It would help me out too.

    Thank you,

  37. I am a young female sub. I have only ever been in one sub Dom relationship in my life; to say the least it went horribly wrong.
    I have been in my relationship with the father or my child for three years and only recently have my submissive desires been reawakened. I have the control on the relationship but I want to use my submissiveness to detach from my everyday. I make the money as well as go to school full time among other things. My SO is not a Dom nor has he ever experienced it, but I am trying to bring to light my wants and needs to be submissive to him sexually rather than 24/7. How can I approach this correctly and get what I am looking for?

  38. Hello. My wife and I have been married for 2 years and together for 5. Lately we have started swinging and playing with other singles. She is bi I am straight. We set our boundaries before we started and the biggest one is that whatever we do we do together. We both have thouroughly enjoyed it. She has always had an interest in bondage and weve dabbled a little. The problem is that she wants to be a submissive/ slave, but she doesnt think she could sub to me. She replied to an ad on craigslist about a dom looking for a sub/ slave and that he was paying for the subs time. Money is very tight right now with me being the only one working. However much he is offering, im not comfortable with us doing anything seperate. This was to be a journey together. She still seems very much interested in subbing to this man even though she knows that to me anything apart would feel like cheating. I have even expressed my interest in trying to fulfill any fantasies she has or wants to try. She has also been clutching her phone very close the last few days and seems distant. He knows she is married and that I might be ok with it if I was present but he refuses. This makes me even more upset with the situation. Infidelity has never been an issue with us, but she seems very adimate about wanting to meet with him. This is even after I have sold an item that is precious to me to make sure we are ok fianacially until she gets back to work. She just wants to drop it, I know to avoid an argument, but I feel that she is stil talking and being tempted by him. What should I do?

  39. Im new, i am not physically familiar with sub/dom relationships but i have read soo much that i cant take not knowing…i feel this is that bit im missing…that little bit my body craves..but i am in a relationship, and it does nothing for me sexually and by that i mean he is spent after 3-5 minuts… i get off by reading and fucking myself…i crave rules, to live by…to get back in shape…to make someone feel good

  40. Oh B, you are certainly in a rough spot. This is one of the age old dangers in any relatively open relationship, after tasting the ‘forbidden fruit’, one member strays outside the preset boundaries and the trust is replaced by the green eyed demon of jealousy. The worst part of this is not the violation, but the melancholy bittersweet one feels when the green eyed demon appears.

    Like the old saying, “if you love something let it go…” ~ lol ~ I have always finished that line with “…hunt it down and kill it”. Personally, I do not handle jealousy well, and have learned from situations exactly as you describe, which is why I do not let them happen anymore.

    The nectar of swinging is so sweet at the start, and yet so bitter when things go south. These days I am absolutely clear about my relationship boundaries, which is why I have evolved over time into being the Dom. Control in my life is not hard and brittle, but my boundaries are clear and well defined. In the human condition, it is a challenge ‘to wear life as a loose garment’ and understand that there is a higher power, and that I am not it.

    So she has tasted the forbidden fruit, and you do not know what to do. You have 3 choices at this point, all of them somewhat painful and filled with fear. Hold on and try and keep control, let go, and see what she does, or tell her to take a hike. Circling her, obsessing while bleating like a wounded animal is only going to make things weirder and mess up what you have/had once in terms of respect and trust. She has broken your agreement, but you really can’t blame her at this point. You have to find a way to accept this new reality and be strong. Not strong like being a dick, but strong as in understanding the role you yourself have played and be willing to accept the consequences.

    You can’t get the genie back into the bottle. Before you get angry and cop a resentment please think about this situation and understand that it could have gone the other way. I think you are going to have to let this one go and see how it pans out. Sucks brother, but I have been there before. Be very careful here, as obsession in love is a powerful and extremely volatile force. Please remember, ‘no means no’.

    ~ Nak

  41. I am a submissive looking to be trained by a dom have any ways to help me out

  42. Hi. Recently one of my online friends has asked me if I am up for a Dom/Sub online relationship (only sexually) with him. This is the starting of any kind of sexual relation between us. He has mentioned that He has been a Dom for some time now, and I am no issues being a Sub. My worries are focused towards the tasks that he says he may set me up for as and when he wishes. We are continents apart and even though I know I have the option of not doing the tasks, I would rather he didn’t give me any (apart from the obvious ones involved in sexual activity between the two of us). I do not want to involve any third person or public place even in a passive sense. What boundaries should I set? Is there anything else that you think in the present scenario I should be careful of?

  43. Hi New Sub!

    This situation brings up some very important issues, and some of my biggest complaints when it comes to ‘virtual Dom Sub’ relationships.

    The Web is a wonderful thing, and there are many ways to have certain kinds of sexual experiences via chat, SMS, video, Second Life etc. With our smart phone technology this list is endless and growing. I am a geek, not at all a luddite, I work online and practically live here.

    All that being said, I feel that there are some fundamental aspects of having a dominant/submissive relationship that do not translate to a virtual experience, that require being together in the same room. The biggest one is in the role of the Dominant or ‘Master’, if you will. I have said this before on this site and I firmly believe that the role of Dominant must come from a place of trust as well as experience. Without this, the Dominant can make all sorts of ridiculous demands to the Sub that are simply not based in any sort of healthy context.

    There are different camps and philosophies in The BSDM World, all of them equally valid to those that live the life. My personal attitude in this regard fall into a more contemporary camp. I believe that having ‘sessions’ should take place as ‘events’ that occur in a separate ‘place and time’ that is outside the regular day to day timeline. If the dominant/submissive relationship becomes a ‘master/slave’ relationship that bleeds into all aspects of life together, there needs to be some serious discussion and major boundaries set well before this becomes a reality. There are people who practice this 24/7 style of dominant/submissive, master/slave relationship and it is a very, very tricky thing to pull off. One must be very careful and super actualized (meaning lots of therapy and self knowledge) to not have relationships like that careen headlong into massive and dangerous co-dependency.

    You must set very clear boundaries. Do not allow yourself to manipulated into weirdness or dangerous situations. If your new Dom is not allowing healthy discussions about boundaries, safe words, and situations that you feel to be uncomfortable, drop him like a hot stone. As the Submissive, you have to be super clear about what you will or will not do. No means no.

    Is there anything else that you think in the present scenario I should be careful of?

    Yes, be very careful of unreasonable demands made by people online who you do not know personally. There is a ton of bad information out there about Domination and Submission, or the BSDM world, and there are many ‘newly minted Doms’ who are clueless, manipulative and some who are outright Sadists. Please be careful.

  44. Will keep all the advice in mind. Thanks.

  45. Hello! I have been in very regular relationships before, and while sex has always been good, I’ve always wanted more in terms of being controlled. I like spanking, choking, etc. but guys I’m with usually seem hesitant to inflict any pain on me. While I want to be safe and not undergo an real harm, I do want to try a little bit more with sex, and see what else is out there that I might like. I don’t know of anybody who might be a dom for me though, and I would be scared to try these things with just anybody, since my safety is a concern. Is there any way you recommend for new subs to find doms that are trustworthy?

  46. I’m a mature bi submissive bottom male. I’m searching for a regular master or mistress to try me as a sub, but not having any success. Just wondering where are the best free sites where I can advertise, with some hope of finding someone? I don’t like to join pay sites, because the ‘free’ membership doesn’t allow you to read messages, or contact anyone, and if you pay, you generally find that there are no genuine members – ie it’s usually a scam.

  47. is a site I can recommend, it is free, the upgrade to paid is very affordable. The free version allows for almost everything except personal videos posted by other members. The site has the correct ‘ethos’. If you are looking to meet people out in the real world, something I regularly suggest here on this site, Fet Life publishes schedules of brick and mortar events. In the BSDM world, meeting in neutral (public) place during the day are called ‘munches’. They are usually scheduled Sunday Mornings at places where brunch are served. Good luck, David! 😀

  48. Hi,
    I just stumbled onto your site while looking up ways to explain this lifestyle to my husband. I’ve been married for 3 years. Been with him for 5. We have 2 kids (4 & 1). My husband is vanilla. I’ve been in a dom/sub relationship before but it was strictly bedroom. I love my husband and thought he would actually like this lofestyle since he is so dominate in our marriage and day to day lives. He controls pretty much everything. I allow it. I actually see it as how it’s supposed to be. When I started talking about this lifestyle with my hubby he started to retreat. He’s so longer as dominate and has started looking at me for answers.
    To him this lifestyle is weird and unnatural. I beg to differ. I need advice on how to explain and hopefully warm up my husband to this lifestyle. I think if he would just leave his speculations of this lifestyle at the door he would honestly love this lifestyle. I don’t want just a bedroom dom and sub relationship I want a 24/7 365 dom and sub relationship but have no idea how to even start to get my vanilla husband to even think about it.
    Help please.

  49. Hi BW,

    It is 3am here, my sleep patterns have been frakked due to some new tech I have had to grapple with.

    I can very much identify with your current situation and my heart goes out to you. Trying to convince a ‘vanilla lover’ that the world of BSDM is actually a place of freedom and trust is hard, if not impossible. Unless you have experienced that loving connection of ‘absolute power exchange’ in all it’s meaning and glory, there is no way to get a handle on what the BSDM world is about.

    Life is about choices. Sucks, but so true. You made a decision a while back that this guy (your husband) was what you needed to get to your next phase of life. It seems from the outside, on that basis of the information you have revealed in your post, that you chose wisely. YAY! Go Team! Having grown up in a supremely dysfunctional family, I have personally know chaos. It has invaded the very fabric of my being over the years, so now, I struggle with the concept that in fact, chaos is not the norm. That love does not have to be a path filled with danger and betrayal. I am opening up here in trying to discern a path for you, based on limited information.

    Sexual dissatisfaction is something that many of us have experienced. I am talking generally here, so sorry. If you think about it, so much of our sex lives is based on media and marketing bullshit. Finding myself in the BSDM world, I had to stop and take a moment, thinking: How did I get here? What is important to me? Have I overcome my fears? Is this who I really am?

    Time is fleeting, we live such short lives on this planet, and as time goes by it picks up speed. You have made some choices here, and it seems like many of them relating to your current relationship are based on concepts that you inherited as a child. Who said that the goal in life is to procreate our species?

    It is funny, BW, that I should have this conversation with you like this, detached, on a comment stream of a blog I built to impress my long lost ex lover ~ lol ~ life is indeed weird.

    My advice for you: be honest with your mate. Express to him how important this is to you. Take the leap of faith. At least you will have been true to yourself and your honest desires. You will feel better about the situation if you have taken an honest stab. There is nothing more painful that hidden sexual desires when you have an intimate relationship. Your children will thank you in the long run, unresolved tensions have a major effect on young children.

    You mentioned that your husband had been a ‘Dom’ in life, that he is able to take control and guide things in a very muscular fashion. That is very cool. The transition into bringing this into the bedroom is a difficult one. It was for me, in my first dom-sub relationship. It took me a long time to understand that my sub needed these things, that the pain I was inflicting was pleasure for her. I was terrified at the time that she would turn around and call the cops, that the bruises I inflicted on her was something she desired above all things. The fact that she did NOT call the cops was the starting point of my own personal trust with her. Funny, how the ‘personal power exchange’ works both ways.

    These days, my lover (who is amazing) does both vanilla and dom-sub with me. Funny, what has happened with me is that I have two entirely different sexual personas, that even my hardons (I am a Male) are different. When I am in the Dom role, my sexual persona is radically different. I have embraced this person, even though he is relatively new to me. (4 years) If I can go through this type of transformation, any one can. I will say that for sure, it has brought a positive change to me sexual relations.

    Maybe this site could help your husband get a better handle on your desires. Who knows?


    ~ Nak

  50. Hello Master Nak. I’m a Sub and I do everything that my master tells me to do. For the last few months we have been looking for a girl or a guy to join us and for me to prove my master that I would do anything he wants from been with a girl that I have never done it before to let him share me with a guy and let them do whatever he wants them to do. The problem is that we can’t find anyone and I wonder if you could help me to find somewhere we can find. Also we would like to meet more subs and masters to chat with them and share experiences. Thank you so much for your help. Martha

  51. Hello I am J Marie I am owned by a wonderful Man I call Sir, going on for 4 yrs now. like others that have written on here I am also looking for other Dom/subs to share experiences with and chat.It would be great to connect with like minded people in this lifestyle.. Sir and i have a TPE relationship that is 24/7.Thank you for this site!

    J Marie

  52. Do you get many virgins on this site ?

  53. Hi Nique ~ Yes, we do get many people who are getting into the BSDM world. Mostly it is dominants and submissives who have had some experience through online encounters and want to get a better sense of how to behave, what is the protocol, where are the boundaries.

    I was going to make a joke and say: “72” ~ but that would have been bad form. Thanks for coming by, anything I can do to help please do not hesitate to ask. ~ Nak

  54. Hello I am Baby Harley , I am a bi sub female that is owned by a great man that I was born to serve, we have enjoyed multiple sessions with other women,Master has expressed that he is about to start searching for me a live in sister, I am excited about this but worry about how it will work with a 24/7 live in sister as we have never had someone for more than a day or two. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

  55. Hello Baby Harley,

    Since I have no true experience in a 24/7 dom sub relationship, I can only give you my thoughts along practical lines, not my experience strength and hope.

    That being said, I would hope that you take a very active role in finding your new sister. You should ask your master for this indulgence, for if you are not happy with his choice, the life that you now enjoy could be destroyed forever. Adding a 3rd always is complicated, and adding a 3rd to share your life is a huge step. I don’t know about you, but smell (pheromones) is a major component with my sexual/sessions partners, and that is just one factor in the complex dance that is emotion and attraction.

    I would think that entering into the search for a 3rd in you and your master’s relationship could become an exciting and fascinating quest for both of you, opening up new and exciting experiences.

    In the end, if you are not happy with your masters choice it will end in disaster. Your life will be miserable and you will have to find a way out. Even though I understand that there are boundaries in what you can say or do to your current master, it would be in both of your best interest to make this quest a collaborative experience.

    ~ Nak

  56. I have recently started a relationship with someone that is submissive, she is a amazing woman, I have always hide my dominate side because of the vanilla women that I have had in my life, the couple that wanted to try “kinkier” stuff didn’t like what I now know I need. So to sum this up any guidance that you could give to a new Dom with his first sub would greatly be appreciated. Thanks for the awesome page.

  57. Why do Doms usually spank there submissive on there first meeting?

  58. I been a master now since before the thought of a man owning a lady as sub or slave in the BDSM life style. when it comes to going from a couple to a three some as a live in my experience is it does not stay that way longest is 6 months you will have disappointment and distrust if any of you start spending time a lone with out all 3 of you there. First as you being the prime sub when your having a hurt or bad day so you reject a master touch or what he says then he take the new sub and you are even more hurt when he starts making more moves on her than you. as master when you have 2 slaves you must at all time keep both as equal or you must establish that the one is always to be the alpha slave and others must always obey her. this steps up a internal feelings between ladies where one will always want to over throw the highest one. always trying to get a better hand on master that the other. there by causing a split or loss of one or bothg in time space. so my recommendation is don’t if you have a good relationship keep it as you have it bring in a sub to play with once in while to stimulate what you have s ok but more that that who leaves whohurt is the question. MASTER TAT

  59. Thank you for sharing your experience strength and hope Master TAT. Having lived the life your insight is most helpful. ~ Nak

  60. Funny thing there, S_Harley, it was a sub that brought me into the life, and though that experience I found my true nature.

    Take time to plan your sessions. It is serious business and concentration is key. Keep your boundaries before, during and after the session. Staying focused is of vital importance to your Sub, and for you as well. Do not break character. Through the process be aware that you are looking for the right time to bring closure to the session, like a ‘beat’ for an actor. This will help define the beginning, middle and end. Keep you internal state light, this is for your pleasure as well as your Sub’s.

    As a Dom, your ultimate responsibility is the safety of your Sub and you as well. Be very careful if you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. As a Dom I would suggest avoiding drinking at all for the first few sessions. An out of control Dom is not a Dom at all. If you can’t handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen. To assume the Dom role, you must be in control at all times during the session. Drinking can really mess things up, in a very big way. You have been warned.

    Thanks for commenting on the site. The life sends chills down my spine, and I have the greatest respect for those who can take the leap of faith into the most extraordinary journey.

    ~ Nak

  61. Master Nik,
    I recently met my new dom and as he was laying down the rules I became very hesitant because he told me I wasn’t allowed a safe word and I don’t know what to do. Do you have any advice?

  62. Hi Worried One,

    That is not acceptable. No means no. Having a safe word is essential. There is no negotiation on this, it is the boundary that is not crossed. The safe word is not just a practical component, it is a concept. Without a safe word, dom sub play can quickly become abuse. Get rid of him asap.

    ~ Nak

  63. I was wondering how most Dom/Sub relationships work in the longrun. Do they become more like common relationships, or remain causal?

  64. Ironically enough, most dom sub relationships are long lasting. There is significantly more trust in the dom sub relationships I have known and experienced. There are a number of reasons for this, TPC being a very big part of it, but there is also a level of intimacy that is seldom achieved in vanilla relationships. ~ Nak

  65. I have been a sub for the last year and a half to a great Sir. This is my first sub/dom relationship. I’ve always had trust in him and felt secure. He recently had me start to chat with another Dom. I’m not sure how I feel about this. I want to please him but I’m not sure I could partake in anything physical with this new person although the thought does excite me at times. It has only been Sir and I until now. We agreed from the beginning that we would only play with each other. I don’t know if there are any expectations. Don’t know what to do or how to feel. Thank you.

  66. I feel lost. I recently realized I’m submissive. I realized that I was/am unhappy and wanted to see what I wanted/needed. The books I kept buying to read were all dom-sub relationships – I found that they are the books that turned me on and I started to long for dominance. I did some reading on net about submission and dom – sub relationships but I wanted to chat with people that actually live it to see if it is what I truly want/need. I am married – I knew when I started doing research that if a dominant is what I need – he is not going to give me what I need. I chatted in a chat room but didn’t have much luck finding a dominant to talk to and see if it is what I desire. I have talked with one dom and I have enjoyed it. I finally found a dom to talk to and he was great! He answered my questions and asked me questions – he agreed that I was submissive. Since we connected so well, he became my Master and I gave him my complete submission. He knew/knows I’m new to submission and would need to teach/help me with my submission. Our Master – sub relationship was on-line. He would dress me (I found I really liked that), was there when I had a bad day and needed to vent or what ever I needed. We discovered that I’m married to a submissive and he’s married to a dominate. Unfortunately he has to step back due to his home life. He said that since I basically just discovered I’m a submissive and I need a master that he supports me in searching for a master. He said he will support me by being there for me to ask questions about poss master and help me with questions I should ask potential master. Now I just feel lost – it was weird today not dressing in what he chose. He has always made me feel comfortable, safe and cared for and I feel out of sorts without him. I feel too old (I’m 42) to be new and learning about being submissive. I worry that I won’t find (not even sure where to look) for a Master that will have the same patience and care he has given me. I guess I just don’t know what to do or what direction to go. Just lost. Thanks for listening

  67. I have just discovered this site, due to finding myself in a new situation as a Dom, with a sub who expresses a tremendous desire for complete domination. I did a search for Dom/sub and this site was the first in the results. From what I’ve read, I’m quite impressed with how helpful and informative it is.

    I am particularly taken with the most recent entry by iWannaKnoWIWnt . . . as it seems she could be much like the sub I’ve met.

    So far the sub and I are online only, but we are building to being together in person. It would be good to hear the perspective of the subs, as well as the Doms, on being new, how to approach things, in addition to sharing how we feel.

    I have had moments with other partners when I knew my Dominant tendencies, and even had a couple comment about them, and respond, in some instances.

    I already feel this very protective instinct, beyond what I would normally feel for a partner. And I attribute that to her desire for dominance, to submit herself . . . that trust she extended to me. I feel it is precious, and that is how I address her, ‘Precious’.

    But what she expresses arouses me more than any ‘vanilla’ interaction depicted ever could.

    I am very interested in suggests and advice for all sources.

    Thank you.

  68. Hello EvrSrchng

    Thank you for the excellent and positive feedback about this website. It pleases me so to hear that in outlining the basics I have been able to guide you in a safe and fulfilling direction.

    When I discovered my own Dom tendencies and needs I had many questions. At first the strength and power of being a Dom pretty much totally freaked me out. My Sub wanted the real deal, and the notion that I could find myself with a dead Sub was very real. I wanted to give her what she required, but the idea of strangling a woman I was making love to was just so over the top. I am physically quite strong and when one is in the heat of crazy passion the boundary between pleasurable pain and outright assault is a thin one indeed.

    I was able to reach out and find people in ‘the life’ to talk to and ask these very important questions. As I explored these boundaries and sought out people in ‘the life’ for advice, my understanding of Dom Sub dynamics deepened. My motivation for creating this site was to help people learn how to deal with most important elements to assure a safe and pleasurable experience. The concept of TPE, the fierce and driving need of the Sub, the true nature of being a Dom and the essential role that the dynamic plays in sessions.

    Powerful and life changing is this ‘life’. Done with the correct understanding of the core protocol, it can lead to relationship intimacy beyond your wildest dreams.

    ~ Nak

  69. Where do I start… My boyfriend very much has Dom tendencies and I have Sub tendencies. I need for him to let it out (on me) as I feel it would give him peace of mind and help for him to truly release. I feel he is holding back. We are moving in together next week and for the Holidays, I would like to introduce him to this. However, I will be just as new to the life as he would, only I have read a couple of books. How do I introduce him and myself to this life that I believe is what we both desperately need?

  70. Hi Cherry,

    The first thing I want to say is ‘YAY!’. Welcome to one of the most wonderful and life changing transformations. It has changed the very core of my passion, the nature of who I am.

    You raise a very important question, and one that is potentially fraught with peril (cue dramatic soundtrack) Be very careful how you introduce this new found desire. While you say your bf has Dom tendencies and you have Sub tendencies, there is a huge gap between that reality, and the ability to have your bf adapt to an outright manifestation of DOM.

    Let me clarify. Sometimes a man can be a Dom in the world, meaning he is direct, assertive, able to communicate what he wants and knows how to get it. This does not mean that this skill translates to being a Dom in the bedroom (dungeon, fill in the blank). Many times a man is hardwired in a way that makes it difficult to release his per-concieved notions about binding, spanking, slapping the one he loves and desires. It can be a big conflict, and I am just saying this to help you shape your approach. Since you feel you have Sub tendencies, you are going to need to take a pro-active role and seduce your man, tell him how much you need to be dominated by him, that there is a fierce, dangerous need building up inside you, and you need him in way that you have never needed him before.

    I am sorry to say that you will probably have to manipulate things to bring him onboard the dark ship Dom-Sub. lol. This is what happened to me, btw, I was seduced by a Sub into the Life. She was fantastically sexy, no, not just sexy, On FIRE! In spite of all my hardwired programming she brought me into The Life, and through the chaos and confusion I emerged a white hot Dom.

    In spite of your best efforts, you must also be prepared to fail. He might not bite, he might run screaming into the hills, he might just collapse into a steaming puddle of tears. Also, you need to check you own motives. Have you ever been tied up so that you could not escape, and spanked till your ass was cherry red? In theory it is all good, but when it comes down to actually being treated as a Sub, you might find it is not your particular kink.

    Let me know how it goes, check in on the site and post a response.


    ~ Nak

  71. Hello I’m new to the seen I’ve been very interested for many years and have found a partner who has the same likes as myself. I am the Dom and she is my Sub. I want to do everything I can to be the best Dom I can doing lots of reading and trying to find out everything I can. I wanted to ask the question what makes a good Dom and how can you build your relationship into something lasting and special.

    Thank you for your time

  72. Hello, I was just wondering how to go about starting a dom-sub relationship. I’m new to this and I know its what I want. But I don’t know how to find a Dom right for me.

  73. Hi! I am new to the dom/sub practice. I recently had a session with an experienced Dom. I know him as a friend in real life for 2 years. He has been into the lifestyle for many years. He was very clear with me about the rules and we used the safe word and he followed and respected my boundaries. He did try to push me past that, but nothing more than verbally. Now he says that if we play again, there will be no NO and that he decides what will happen.

    How should I handle this effectively? Is he trying to play “head games” with me? Isn’t this all about negotiation? Does he call the shots in the play time? I have read a great deal about the lifestyle, but have not really seen this issue addressed. Thank you.

  74. Happy Holidays!

    Great to hear that you had an excellent experience.

    “Now he says that if we play again, there will be no NO and that he decides what will happen.”

    I call bullshit. Sounds like your Dom has some serious issues going on if that is the way he feel. Safe word is sacred. No means no. Period.

    It sounds like there are other things going on here. You can only go so far in ‘experimentation mode’ and come to the conclusion that perhaps you are not a Sub. Something to consider. There is a point where pain transforms into deep pleasure and the desire to test your own boundaries come into play. You can only go so far into this world as an intellectual exercise. Your ‘Dom du Jour’ might have thought that you needed to go deeper, past the point of no return. If he is as experienced as you say he might have been saying that to you so that if you were to do another session together you would be able to let go, past your fears, to immerse yourself into the moment.

    Just something to consider.

    Let me know how it goes!

    ~ Nak

  75. So I’ve been interested in the dom/sub scene for quite a while. I have never experienced anything like it but I’ve read about it many times and its always excited me. However being so young and having a boyfriend, im at loss as to what to do about it. My boyfriend knows about my curiosity but hasn’t been introduced to this world either. I
    I’ve read a lot about it and I think I know a lot too, I WANT to be dominated but the thought of being in control excites me too. I need advice on what to do or if I should act on it. I’ve read the comments and I know I’m in good hands.

  76. Sexy, smart, funny. What’s not to like 🙂

    WANT to be dominated but the thought of being in control excites me too. I need advice on what to do or if I should act on it.

    There is a role that straddles both side of TPC, and that is the role of the ‘Switch’. Funny thing happened the other day. My sub gf started spanking me in the morning as a little joke and love play and OMG! it felt soooo good. Am I on the wrong side? *grins

    You can go both ways, honey. 😀

    I do want to caution you, being a switch can get confusing for all parties involved. I suggest you try out various aspects. As to your current boyfriend, you might embark of explorations into this world.

    Another warning! Both of you being young, you will run into potential complications if you meet other BSDM people along the way. Your bf might find himself challenged as to his core intentions by other males in the BSDM world. Before going into a group of other people ‘from the life’, be sure to be aligned (you and your bf) ~ things can get a little weird when you meet other doms and subs if your predilections are still being shaped.

    Please, be sure to give this a try in the real world. Do not let this be only a virtual imagining. There is nothing quite like having your lover tied up, panting, squealing, thrashing around, begging for more.

    Please keep me posted as to your adventures, my little switch,


    ~ Nak

  77. So I’m not sure if you will get this as I am unsure how this works. Ok so I’m not very open about this but I’ve been a sub since I was 14 (yea don’t want to get into it) I’m in a dom/sub relationship and my dom forces pleasure on me and won’t let me on top during sex. He gets mad when I don’t look him in the eye during it. I’m sry I’m not trying to talk bad about him but I can’t even go to the bathroom without him standing outside. My ex was dom and he wasn’t this way. Maybe because he’s a soldier but still. I was used to being submissive one way now this new way. I can’t even resist even a little without being punished. He doesn’t hurt me really it’s more of forcing pleasure on me…I just want to please him without him pleasing me. And a little space. How can I communicate this to him without him feel like I’m walking all over him? Also he wants me to live with him but I can’t fully submit in that way if he can’t give me air. Plz plz help

  78. What you are describing to me is an unacceptable situation. You may be a sub, but that does not mean you are a living doormat. Walk all over him on you way walking out the door.

    There is a very fine line between a dom/sub relationship and massive codependency. There are other camps of thought out there in the dom sub world, but for me issues of codependency need to be addressed openly. The idea of a 24/7 365 ‘session’ in which the dominant and submissive roles are constant is not something that I think is healthy or realistic. That is my opinion and what I believe.

    Take back your power, remember that it is yours, and get the hell out of this particular relationship.

    Life is too short to be in borderline abusive relationships. Leaving this guy might be difficult and even dangerous, take precautions, make a plan and do not tell him about it. This is not something I say very often, but in this case the vibe I get reading your post is setting off some alarms.

    ~ Nak

  79. Hello, first let me say reading the posts and your responses have helped me already. I am going to meet my Dom for the first soon so this is my first real experience. I feel that I am naturally submissive and it has been hidden inside of me. I am very nervous and excited at the same time. I am especially nervous about using a gag on me as he has already stated that he would. I’m sure this is normal for the most part. I am very open minded and I will do as he wishes, but I can’t seem to get it out of my mind. I want to please him, as it pleases me. Are there any tips that you may give me that will help with my first introduction into this lifestyle go smoothly on my part as a sub. The pull inside of me is very deep and I believe that I can be what he wants and expects of me. Just the jitters I guess.. lol
    I thank you for your time and I will keep on reading here.

  80. hello Master Nak. I’m a 21 year old brunette who’s very curious about becoming a submissive. I’ve been interested in this kind of lifestyle for about a year now and i think its time for me to start looking around for a potential Dom who’s willing to teach and explain everything to me. I’m not looking for a male who’s just looking for rough sex and claims to be a Dominate but truly knows nothing about being a Dom. I’m wanting someone who’s willing to take the challenge and push me as far as i can go without breaking my limits. i want my Dom to connect with me not only on a physical level but a emotionally and mental level as well. i want my Dom to be stern and strict but gentle and loving. I want him to protect me against anyone and anything if need be.I want levels of unbreakable trust. when he looks at me in the submissive position i want him to look at me with utter satisfaction and pride that I chose to be his. that I chose to give him every part of me and he is grateful to have me kneeling at his feet. when ever we go to socialize with other Doms and submissive’s i want him to be proud that I’m his. I want him to show me off and know that every other Dom is staring wishing that they had me. I want every Submissive to wish that they were me and that they had a Dom just like him. I want him to know every single part of me and know me better then i know myself. I prefer that my Dom be in really good physical shape as am I. i do have a age limit. I am 21 so i do not want a Dom to be older then 40 years old but i want him to be very experienced. it may seem like i am asking to much but i feel as if i deserve somebody like that. if i am going to give my Dom every Single part of me and obey his every command i expect to get treated the way That i deserve. is this to much to expect? Am i over analyzing the situation of what i want?
    are subs usually this high standard?

  81. Master Nak,
    I am very new to the lifestyle and having difficulties controlling my behavior. I have just recently began a relationship with my Dom. We have known each other for several years but never acted upon a relationship til now. He has been a Dom for many years but I am new to the role of sub. Currently we spend a lot of our relationship on line and I am having difficulty with controlling my behavior from being a business friend to now being his sub. How do I balence this? In the bedroom I have no problem being his sub and my focus is him. But in our online conversations he has said I am being aggressive. Our conversations are usually blended with intimate and work. How can I focus better and keep my behavior in check? Suggestions please.

  82. Hi Lindie,

    It is essential for a Dom/Sub relationship to have defined boundaries. Without clear boundaries the relationship can descend into destructive co-dependency. Keep in mind that it is the Sub that defines the relationship for the Dom, not the other way around.

    If your Dom is as experienced as he says he is, he would not engage in such pathetic and obvious manipulation. If you are a business woman, you know how tough it is out there. You have to stay on your toes, and sometimes that means being aggressive. This is a fact. If your Dom is giving you crap about it, tell him to take a hike.

    My attitude about this is quite clear. Sessions are sacred. When the Dom/Sub relationship moves out from the dungeon, bedroom, etc things start to get weird, fast. Old school BSDM people might not agree with me, but I do not believe that in our contemporary world there is any place for promoting maximum dysfunction. The world has way too much dysfunction as it is.

    The concept of the session is important, and it allows for the existence of a sacred space in which the participants are allowed to engage in their deepest fantasies and needs. Outside of the session, the Dom no longer has the power over the Sub.

    If you, as the Sub, make a choice of having your Dom have power over you in RL (Real Life), you have started down a slippery slope. If you feel this to be a burning need, you should consider some form of help, professional or 12 step. I have personally found the rooms of ACOA or ACA to be most effective in terms of learning about yourself and your core hardwiring when it come to co-dependency.

    “Our conversations are usually blended with intimate and work.”

    Stop. Keep it professional until after work finishes for the day.

    “How can I focus better and keep my behavior in check”

    By having a heart to heart with your Dom, outline clear work/play boundaries. If he keeps crossing the line, cut him off.

    Good luck, Lindie, Circle back around later and let me know how things turn out!

    ~ Master Nak

  83. Hello Master Nak,

    I’m Elizabet, and I have to say that I have been interested in the lifestyle for about two years now, I just turned 18 last October, and it is hard to find good info for newbies like me. FetLife helps a lot. It is also a little problematic because I am in my senior year of high school. I don’t really know what to do…
    I’m interested in going to munches, but it would be super awkward to tell my parents about the munch. Any help is greatly appreciated

  84. Hello Master Nak,

    Like many people on this site I’m very new to this lifestyle. I’ve always wanted to be a sub and just recently met someone I’m very lucky to call Master. The dynamic in our relationship does have clear boundaries however he has stated that he has to consider whether or not he wants to be monogamous. I don’t feel comfortable knowing he may be receiving pleasure from someone else that isn’t me. I’ve brought this topic up with him because we believe in full disclosure but I’m still not satisfied because I genuinely feel like he wants to experience as much sexual pleasure as he can get from multiple sources. I enjoy the pleasure I give to my master and his happiness is truly important to me. I just don’t know how to look past this particular issue. Any feedback will be welcomed.

  85. I’m an new, inexperienced 19 year sub looking to be en lighted into this whole new lifestyle. I’m just struggling to find a genuine, age appropriate person to educate me.

  86. …and what would age appropriate be?

  87. How do I tolerate being told what to do when it’s something that is completely different and new to me

  88. Hello Master Nak

    Im a sub to a wonderfull Dom who is my life. Im having issues with a big no no in submissiveness. I get jealous lol. Im a online sub but do see my Master now and then and those times are so special. I know he has needs andhe does meet other woman .. Mostly he meets couples as he knows meeting one on one with single or other sub woman hurts me. I on otherhand do not meet others. Im his alone. How do I cope with this jealousy of mine its killing me inside as I know i should never be jealous ? Please help me to understand why im like this when i do feel secure and safe in my relationship with him. Keiko

  89. Gah! The Green Eyed Monster of Jealousy!

    Ironically, having pangs of jealousy is such a sweet and maddening feeling, I know, believe me I know all too well.

    Jealousy isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It’s human nature. It’s natural to feel jealous from time to time. Jealousy becomes problematic when we act out in jealousy or we wallow in it, It becomes problematic when it starts to consume you and creeps into every aspect of your life.

    The best way to overcome jealousy is to first take a look at your romantic relationship. For instance, consider if your relationship is built on trust, respect and love, and if your partner’s behavior reflects their words.

    You have already recognized your jealousy, this is a very important step. When we name the jealousy, it loses its power, because we are no longer letting it shame us.

    Tell yourself that you don’t need this emotion in your life, and you’re relinquishing it, then breathe deeply, and imagine it flowing through you like the wind. Repeat as often as it takes to truly let it go.

    Jealousy is a normal reaction. It becomes problematic when it becomes persistent. When you find yourself feeling jealous, recognize what’s happening and delve deeper into your relationships and yourself.

    All that being said in terms of ‘jealousy overall, regarding jealousy as it relates to e Dom-Sub relationship, it can be an overwhelming thing. When your dominant submissive relationship happens 100% of the time online, it can lead to even greater obsession. Believe, I know! 🙁 The reason I mention this is that when you are a submissive and you see your dom (dominant) on a regular basis in person, it allows for a bond of trust not really available, ie; touching, smell, heat, the unspoken communications of gesture, eye movement, etc. Since these cues tend to be missing, of fuzzy (video chat), the areas for misunderstanding become magnified.

    Since detachment is the key in this situation, my suggestion, beyond the ones I outlined above is to make some choices that are pro-active and supportive to yourself. If your dom sub world and life is online, create an alter ego, perhaps even a dom, and go forth, meet some new people. Tease your dom as this new character even, but do not tell him. Be a saucy minx, broaden your world, don’t let the obsession of the green eyed demon ruin your fun and freedom.

  90. Will a sub ever be able to turn into a Dom? I am a confidant, independent woman but in the bedroom I crave the domination, the spanking, the holding me down, everything that makes my blood sing. My husband wont do it. He hesitates or is tentative. However, when I bring my bossy side to bed he likes it more. He is still having problems with a free sexuality; we were both raised catholic. How do I take us to the next level? The vanilla sex is getting boring. Thank you for your help, Sir.

  91. Hello Master Nak, I am a young female who has recently decided that she wants to explore the possibility of being a sub. From what I have been reading and from what I think I know about myself, I am a submissive and I have had those tendencies for a long time. However, I have several worries. First of all, I have a long-term boyfriend whom I love very much and who knows about my “curiosity”. He is open to me starting to learn about this new lifestyle but he doesn’t think that he can fulfill the Dom role. Anyways, my first concern is whether there is a chance for me to find someone who would work with that? How would such a relationship look like?
    The second worry I have is that I am not… sensitive enough for this kind of play? I just feel that I would greatly disappoint and/or frustrate anyone who would be trying to help me orgasm…. I hope this question is appropriate to ask… Thank you for your help!

  92. You have a refreshing take on this subject and seem really very good at answering everyone with honesty, grace, and humor. ♥ it. My inquiry is a bit complex. I have been called a natural sub by numerous people. i tried the lifestyle in rl and hated every second of it. Master felt the need to push past my boundries rather than respect them. Since then another man has made attempts to dom me, rather roughly. I suppose my questions are, are some people truly “natural subs”? And if so, can they ever escape that instinctual reaction to a strong dom?

  93. Just wanted to know are there any Dom’s in Texas

  94. How do I.find a Dom ? Are there sites like there.are for dating ? Please help .

  95. I am new and want to learn I recently asked my partner to be my Dominate that I want to explore this life style but I would like to know good places/ways to learn and explore all this it is very Enticing to me!

  96. I recently met an amazing women that is in a long distance BDSM relationship. She is the sub in the relationship. I just found out that her Master allows her to see other men.However, he decides with whom she can see, when and for how long. They are both married to other people…so as someone not in this lifestyle I don’t understand why the control outside their relationship. I guess this is considered a 24/7 BDSM relationship? I had plans to meet her but she then cancelled when he changed his mind about approving our meet. I don’t want to get in the way of what they have…but I really enjoy her company.I’m thinking I should just walk away.

    Any advice?

  97. I have known for many years that I wanted to be in a dom/sub relationship… Unfortunately i have never dated anyone who had the same interest. I feel like there is something huge missing from my life but then I convince myself I shouldn’t place so much importance on sex… But I know deep down it isn’t just the sex.. It’s so much more than that. I wish I could find the courage to find what I want.

    There was one time, I was involved with and committed to a man but then I happened to meet another man who I was babysitting for who was a dominant…and basically fell into submissive behavior with him so naturally however I held back because I was not available and eventually cut my ties completely.

    I think it feels good to say these things “out loud”. If I’m lucky, someone may have good advice. I know the answer though… Stop being so scared and go after what I want. In the interim I will keep dreaming that a dominant man will come to me and, well.. you know the rest.

  98. I came across this website when I was trying to research the aspects of BDSM. It’s not something I’m doing to please anyone, but rather to satiate my own curiosity. I just wanted to know how people came to understand and accept their role as a sub or a dom in a relationship. What little I know about BDSM suggests that the dom is the one who takes control in the situation, giving demands that satisfies the sub’s need to be dominated, while the sub is the one who submits to the dom willingly and has that craving to serve. What I don’t understand is how these cravings/needs revealed themselves to those who are familiar with BDSM and are actively engaged in a relationship that involves BDSM. There are certain aspects in BDSM that I find very arousing but I’m not sure which role I’d fit into. On one hand, I always enjoy being the one in charge of situations, and yet I know that should I find a partner I become intimately close with, I will want to serve them in every way possible (not without some teasing of course), regardless of the role they take in said relationship.

    Again, I’ve yet to be in an intimate relationship with anyone to be completely decisive but I do have my cravings. I guess what I’m trying to ask is, whether or not this need to serve and please my partner makes me somewhat of a sub. I apologize if anything I’ve said insults anyone or if I come off too naively. This is completely new territory for me and I just want to satiate my personal curiosity.

  99. Hi Gwen ~ I just wanted to take a second and acknowledge your comment. Let me parse your question and get back to you in 24 hours.. This site is for exactly this type of question. Thank you for taking the time to post. ~ Master Nak

  100. Hi
    I met a guy who claims to be a Dom. He wanted me as a sub to add to his house. He has at least 3 other subs. He has sex with all of them, and won’t allow them to talk to other doms. I am new to all this, and want to leArn about it, but he gets angry if I ask too many questions or talk with others. He also insists that I have sex with him and his other subs, and this is all part of the lifestyle and his house.
    Is this what being a Dom/sub is about or is he just using women?

  101. My compliments on your site; I feel comfortable sharing/asking questions. I’m 53 years old, pretty, but overweight. Since puberty, I have always been aroused by the kinkier side of life. I was raised Catholic and did a pretty good job of repressing this side of my sexuality-hell, I was a 22-year-old virgin on my wedding night. I have been divorced for several years and am lucky to have a sex-buddy who is willing to explore the Dom/Sub aspect with me. The things we have tried have been exciting for both of us. Unfortunately, he is not available to be more than a very good friend and sex-buddy and as I am getting older, I’m concerned that I am missing out on finding someone for a long-term relationship. First, am I too old to even be considering this lifestyle? Also, because I’m overweight, I’m uncomfortable even pursuing this, as I certainly do not have the body of the women I see on the BDSM web sites. Is this community open to people of different body types? I know I’m not into the humiliation aspect of BDSM, and so I wouldn’t want to get into any situation where someone would think that because I’m overweight, I’d be into fat-shaming. I know, only I can do something about my weight, but I’m looking for truthful answers to these issues. Any insight you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

  102. Me again. I forgot to add that I’m tempted to try going to a Munch, but wonder if I would be out of place because of my age and all. Thanks.

  103. Hey ‘n’,

    Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to interface with the site.

    Is this what being a Dom/sub is about or is he just using women?

    Not in my book, honey. Short answer: sounds like abuse to me.

    Dom Sub (Dominance and Submission) is not about working out your sadism or hatred on another person, it is about issues of control, intimacy and release. At the start of any Dom-Sub relationship the Sub should define initial parameters (boundaries) before the session and/or relationships begins. At there very least, it is imperative to agree on a safe word/safe signal.

    I quote Kim Debron:

    Whichever way we choose to look at it, a Total Power Exchange involves the giving of your whole self to another human being. In that defining moment, whether it be for 24 hours a day 365 days a year, or for just a few hours or days, it has to be done with trust and truth – and faith in the person who offers the power as well as in the one who accepts. Only then is it truly a Total Power Exchange

    I believe that core core of this is the idea of having ‘trust, truth and faith’, and the only way for that to happen is to sit down and have a simple talk outlining rules, safe words, and expectations. Without that how can there be a starting point of a meaningful engagement? As a Dom, I need to know where the boundaries are so that I can approach then, test them and go deeper into understanding my Sub through action. It is the edge of things that sets the heart free.

    While I understand very clearly that there are some very large and very different schools of though when it comes to the BSDM world, my personal belief is that this concept of total domination 24/7-365 has potential for a type of corrosive manipulation by borderline sociopaths who get off on abuse. Another very strong element in this is the inherent co-dependency that all humans have in varying degree and the potential for exploitation and manipulation.

    If you feel uncomfortable in this situation, run away as fast as you possibly can. Do not look back. Understand that the type of behavior is NOT what I consider to be contemporary a Dom-Sub relationship.

  104. hi. i have a few questions. I have always fantasied about the idea of being controlled. i have horrible control issues and anxiety but when my fiancee tells me what to do i get turned on. the question is, how are some ways we could start the whole dom/sub relationship? we have discussed it several times and he seems as interested in it as i am but neither knows how to actually start it. i love the idea of him telling me completely what to do but i am also very stubborn when it comes to things being done my way. i would really love to have this kind of relationship. would it be better to start off by just starting in the bedroom and then working our way up? thanks in advance for any help/advice you can give me.

  105. Hi Master Nak!
    I wrote to you way back on December 25, 2014 on this page. I only saw your response to my question recently as I did not remember that I had bookmarked this page. Thank goodness! Thank you for responding back then! I’ve played a bit with this same Dom with no problems. I guess the newest problem is me wanting more play time to explore and not really knowing how to ask for it. He has taken it slow with me, but I find it challenging to ask for what I would like to explore. He says I should feel free to talk with him and be truthful, but in reality sometimes he seems shut down and not receptive. Any thoughts on breaking through this wall of difficulty? Thanks very much1 P.S. He has been experiencing some serious health issues (cancer, surgery, treatment) so maybe this is part of the complication. Thank you again!

  106. Great to hear back from you, Lill. It sounds like you were able to take care of yourself as well as go deeper into your exploration of the Dom Sub Life.

    Your Dom sounds like he is going through some major transitions. Serious illness is difficult, and can cause all sorts of life changes. Please give him my best. Serious illness sometimes can effect deep, internal reflections that impact confidence. As a Dom, confidence is essential. Be careful not to pity him, that is not helpful. You could work on affirmations, praising him for muscular prowess, powerful intensity, something like that. Tricky stuff, Maybe dinner and a movie, or a long massage to calming music.

    ~ Nak

  107. Si I have a u as estion im. Ot 18 yet but ive always wanted to try bdsm how can i

  108. I am curious about being a sub. I want that bond that trust that connection. I want to give everything to someone. The pain. The pleasure. But how to I go about finding this?I mean where do you start?

  109. What you have described defines the purest form of love, devotion and surrender. It is imagined as an idealized state of being with another human. Indeed, giving the pleasure and the pain of life to another via shared experiences in many respects is as good as it gets in this earthly plane.

    Faith that you can trust the person you are sharing time with is really where the rubber meets the road. Betrayal of that trust is something that should be punishable by eternity in the deepest, most fiery region of Hell. And yet those that reach this levels of evil and betrayal never seem to be punished.

    Ideally a dom-sub relationship is about this level of trust as there is nothing more intimate in this world than being tied up by the one you love.

    If I were next you right now I could give you this experience.

    The key here is to find someone in real life who could give you this experience. That journey is potentially fraught with peril. In the need to be protective there is the notion that you can have this type of experience over the Web, but without the actual feeling of being bound, facing the unknown, handing your power over to another represents a situation that must be experienced in reality is the only way to understand.

  110. I’m new to this. And have been asked to be someone’s master/mistress and have no idea what to say or do

  111. I have been with my husband for over three years and we have been experimenting with dom(him) and sub(me) roles for some time, i was a bit apprehensive at first but now I find it extremely exciting, I love the idea of being controlled and being able to let myself go completely to him, but I still have some trouble with being able to release my inhibitions, the sessions are amazing from spanking, bondage, flogging, ect and his after care is wonderful, but I cant help but feel myself holding back, i dont know if its because I’m scared to let go or if I’m scared that I’m not going to be able to please him fully, is this a normal reaction for a sub to feel?

  112. Naked, it’ seems you haven’t been on the blog much. Are you still posting here?

  113. Nak,

    Are you still actively using this blog? It seems as though you’re not on as often.

  114. Hi Lisa,

    I am still here. My business keeps me busy these days. I am trying to figure out what to do next with this site. Any ideas? ~ Nak

  115. Do you know of a place inMiami where they hold Munches ?

  116. I have read some of the comments left. I am a Dom by nature. I have very few women willing to be a sub. I can and will say this. Being a Dom o it’s not all about sex or being the boss’s. I’m a gentleman from Texas and I have all the respect in the world for women. Finding my sub has been and continues to be a journey. I find this relationship with a woman to very loving, caring and mutual. I will do anything for her, and she will die me. But in very different aspects of life. To lose her, would end me. To love her is to live! I open car doors and pay for dinners. But I do have my demands. Demands which are fulfilling to me. And her. I can’t explain any ferret, either you get it. Or you don’t. is very natural for me.

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